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so, for the longest time, after i first watched neon genesis evangelion, i considered it to be my Favorite Anime. that, despite its flaws, it was pretty much the best thing i'd ever seen. i was also like 15, max

over time, i kinda saw a few more anime and broadened my horizons a little bit, but i still considered evangelion my personal favorite. this was even after having watched pretty much everything there is to watch Ghost in The Shell. but eventually i kinda refocused myself and thought a bit about it

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it took a while and a few watches to really kind of engage with evangelion and i think it actually knocked it down a little bit. it still resonates with me greatly, but it no longer occupies that top spot. i don't really identify with many of the characters in the ways that i thought i did when i was younger, and overall i feel like, while the work is good and can have substance depending on the reading, ultimately the expression is very much a personal journey and subsequent viewings and releases show that it has lots of stuff to say about people but not a lot to say about society

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meanwhile, as i was growing up i also interfaced a lot with dragon ball (z specifically). altho it wasn't with the show itself as much as i was growing up, it was still there and still a part of what i had seen and what i watched growing up. dragon ball z is a cultural touchstone in the united states, pretty much everyone at least knows about it, even if they haven't seen it. goku is almost as ubiquitous as, say, superman. z kind of permeates our society and our collective consciousness, and it was a hugely influential anime. dragon ball z helped bring toonami forward, and probably helped influenced the decision of adult swim to air anime on late night programming blocks

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i didn't ever watch ghost in the shell when adult swim first aired it back in the day, at least not often enough that i remember doing it

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what i DO remember, however, is seeing bumps for it when i was i young. stand alone complex was one of the many shows adul swim would air during that time period, and i was aware that it ran, i just think it was on too late for me

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as i grew up, i knew it existed and i eventually got around to watching it. it shot up to be one of my favorite anime, but it always lagged just a little bit behind evangelion, to me. but it slowly grew on me, and the longer i considered it, the more i realized that i actually like ghost in the shell better. i really enjoy the series and i particularly enjoy how it hits basically every sweet spot for me

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the cast feels alive and like they all have their own personalities, down to the random politicains that have to be convinced to help out section 9. the worldbuilding is dense and well-formed, and the moment to moment plot is always engaging and exciting. its a very fun show in its own right and it even tries to comment on society and personal relationships

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it's been a long time since i've seen stand alone complex, but i hope that it still holds up on this rewatch and i hope you'll join me along the way

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a couple of notes:

ghost in the shell is one of the rare cases from that time period where the dub was actually very good. i could watch either the dub or the sub with no complaints, but in this case i'm watching the sub

gits is also one of the earliest examples i can think of for 3d animation in anime, and while a lot of people like to shit on 3d animation in anime, i think it works especially well here

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ghost in the shell operates very differently from most anime, so while there is no filler per se, some episodes are relevant to the overarching plot and others aren't. the robot geishas aren't exactly the most plot relevant part of the show, but they do set the tone for the rest of the series and start introducing us to major characters

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just gonna make the wild guess that this show not only holds up, but is still relevant today

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its really weird to kind of think of the implications and how predictive the second episode of gits is, specifically with regards to the religious objection to prosthetic bodies

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i don't think its much of a stretch, or even totally unexpected that severe body modification like that will in the future become an extremely contentious topic, especially on religious grounds. and i can't imagine that pain and suffering that was gone thru in order for the son to eventually try and fail to show his parents his steel body, that was ultimately nothing more than a machine of war, but it was his only resort to finally being able to live a long life

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do you think that gits' prosthetic bodies, and the implied religious objections towards them could possibly mirror our current religious objections to transitioning? not to mention the many contemporary religious objections to standard medical procedures and technology in general.

i think there's absolutely a global argument relating to the use of prosthetics violating religion, especially in gits' america. i feel like if you dug hard enough you could find any number of bible passages that would suggest prosthetic bodies aren't biblical. prosthetic bodies kind of reshape the way we interface with other people, able bodiedness, as well as gender and pleasure. the depths of change to society that come with wide availability of bodies like that are staggering to consider, even on the personal level

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episdoe 3 is really cool because it introduces us to a core concept of the GITS universe: that of the ghost, which is really just a fancy sci-fi version a of a soul for robots

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one of the most complex and hard to answer questions GITS poses is of the essentiality of the soul. is there some immutable, essential property of the soul that's unique to humans, or can "machines" that are sufficiently advanced also posses a soul? if "machines" can possess or mimic this essential quality well enough, whats the difference between ghosts and souls, if there is one at all?

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@CyclopsCaveman My favorite too. And when I'm down and feeling alienated, I still remember that bit where the major says curiosity is what keeps her going.

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